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NISSAN This is AMERICA talking….. some is rude and harsh….. Tokyo YOU need to read it. I want your LEAF to succeed. SOME people in America did not “speak up” and now YOU have a problem. That Good Ole Boy Network NEVER wanted the LEAF to succeed. Had YOU had “1” team working together a few years ago you would be “cruising” toward victory on the electric highway. NOW you have some competition.
Read, Weep and Let’s Move On…. J J Sharyn
oinkjohnson2 May 16, 2010 11:32 AM
The Leaf is a little weird looking, but so what? To me, an automobile is something which I use to transport my fat rear-end from point A to point B and back. Now, if point A is more than 50 miles from point B, I would either have to plan on staying overnight to recharge or risk being stranded somewhere along the way. As for the ************** to compete with the Prius--that is, it is a hybrid. How, then, can GM justify a selling price of $40K (before the tax credit of $7500)? By the way, one can buy a very nicely equipped Cadillac CTS for around $35 or $36K. As for me, since I have insufficient tax liability to take advantage of the tax credit, I will stick with conventionally powered (i.e., gasoline) autos, of which there are many which can achieve 30 to 35 mpg.Report This
dorisviolamiami May 16, 2010 9:55 AM
A "Tax Credit" is cash money. It's just that the government pays you through the IRS so they call it a tax credit. You know, like when you have an income tax credit at the end of the year and you get a tax refund check the beginning of the next year. But when you qualify for this credit you send in an amendmended tax form with your proof of purchase, and they send you a check. You don't only benefit from a tax credit when you owe the IRS money.Report This
hunterofthepack May 16, 2010 6:20 AM
I don't think I could ever own a car called a leaf because I have a penis.Report This
omots54 May 16, 2010 6:05 AM
Gimme good ole fossil burning cubic inches any day!!!!! The hum of an electric motor does NOTHING for me!!Report This
lynxcorp May 16, 2010 5:51 AM
Hmmmm, 69% of our electrical power come's from coal fired plants. So what we really have is a 69% coal burner. Think about it, and battery replacement cost. I do not think it is the correct approach.Report This
mrblue890 May 16, 2010 5:48 AM
For me the Chevy looks more like a car (not a golf cart). I wonder if solar panels built into the roof and hood could recharge the batteries while the car is out and about, even parked for that matter. I think I read something about that? Also, when is GM going to get rid of that yellow "bow tie"on the front of the Chevy!!!! That is got to go!!! JMHOReport This
santoroturillo May 16, 2010 5:47 AM
..Whahooooooooooo!!!! It has always been known that diversity is the greatest assett a team, and a country can ever have....and surely we can say it is what made USA the greatest country in the world. But reading all these comments, make me also realize that we have quite a few morons in our midst. From the ones who can not understand that the Volt has a GAS engine to keep the battery charged and consequently it is correct to estimate a MPG performance...to those who beleive that buying a $40,000 car would effectively fights terrorism ...when oil producing countries have had a demand that oustripped the supply for generations. The simple fact is that the money one would save by buying a comparable gasoline powered small car ...would pay for over 110,000 miles of driving (which in the case of GM cars is about their life expectancy..barring the new B/S of better quality) Furthermore, have you all forgotten that electricity is not one of the aboundand source of power anywhere in the world..........it is produced through dirty coal fired generators, dangerouse nuclear plants...and lately those mostruosity of wind farms which effectively spoil any landscape they are built on. Get a life people, you are darned if you do ......and darned if you dont, because we are being manipulated by the cars manufacturing industries all over the world. They simply are running out of ideas and need some innovation........hence....your Catfish, the square boxes from Toyota, the tin cans from detroit and to add insult to injury the $7500 tax credit from a government that is considering cutting SS and medicare ...but still subdsidizing the organizations which we just bailed out from the results of their greed and stupidity with our hard earned money. Surely we can appreciate the diversity of opinions we have in this great country of ours. However, it would be desirable that morons would attempt to refrain from commenting on subjets they absolutely have no fr....clues about it. Free speach does not necessarely means, insulting someone elso intelligence....you are entitled to an opinion like every one is entitled to have an an phisical hole for the fecis your body (and in this case your minds) escretes every day...do us all a favor....keep the smell in you own private "Back House"Report This
mdmichel8888 May 16, 2010 4:09 AM
own a new 2010 chevrolet camaro SS..........400hp of gas guzzling machine .............AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!Report This
fordf350va May 16, 2010 3:53 AM
LIke all fuel efficient, and TINY cars, if you are in an accident, you are the first one there. Our 05 Xterra gets 23 mpg highway, 18 city. It's reliable, goes anywhere safely, provides excellent all-around visibility, and is SAFE. As far as I am concerned these things are still GAY! Norman Prevatte Stafford, VAReport This
hotboy900rr May 16, 2010 2:48 AM
Wow people are stupid. How is the rest of America paying for a tax credit? You all dont know the first thing about anything do you? People get tax credits for having children. Just means that you get back more of the money YOU paid in. If you dont pay in you dont get anything back. Even the dumb ass author states..... "That depends on whether the rumored price tag of $32,500 is before or after you other taxpayers help me out with my effort to save the planet." After he earlier wrote......"assuming the buyer owes more than $7,500 in federal income taxes." LOL wow people.......?!?!?Report This
cobolom2001 May 16, 2010 2:40 AM
Just one question, Mr. Jeanes : Are you perchance ralated to my dearest friend, the late Mr. HARRAEL JEANES of Florence, Mississippi, (May GOD rest his sould, Amen) , formerly of Taylor & Jeanes, Inc. Detroit Diesel (GM) distribuitors in the Jackson, MIss. area ???Report This
zzsparx May 16, 2010 1:50 AM
Well writtwen article Mr Jeanes . . . I for one appreciate an article that doesn't force feed the USA owned GM propaganda down my throat. Having owned a dozen straight Toyotas, I didn't appreciate the "Piling on B.S." over the last year. I feel rather certain 98% of "ACTUAL" Toyota owners would agree . . . The real answer here is to let them work out the inevitable kinks with this technology. That notwithstanding, I wouldn't put a Family (my family) in either one for Safety reasons. It's a well documented fact that smaller cars have resulted in more Deaths and serious injuries. Until long Haul Truck Drivers and Mad Soccer moms size down, I believe I'll retain a little mass around our Family just in case . . . The extra 150 gallons per year is well worth the Peace of Mind . . .Report This
qq4lbfm May 16, 2010 1:41 AM
I drive a Cadillac Eldorado, a Harley Davidson XLC 1200 and a Ford F-250 that get's about 9 MPG. They are all American and they go fast. As long as I can pay for my gas I'll drive them. And I don't expect anybody to subsidize my rides. If you can't pay for it yourself you probably shouldn't be driving it.Report This
bjg1765 May 16, 2010 1:30 AM
The problem I have with these cars is that they are comparable to in size and amenities of cars costing half as much. If the car costs $10,000 more that a strictly fuel burner getting 32mpg, you could buy aproximately 3500 gallons of fuel for the difference or go 112,000 miles more. Doesnt really sound like savings to me. Another thing I cant figure out is why are the costs of cars still going up? There are houses all over the country going unsold for under $50,000 because people cant afford them or get the credit to buy them and the average new car probably tops $25,000 so who is still buying them? My house cost $48,000 and im having a hard time making ends meet and thats my only financed payment. If you are not a two income family I dont know how anyone can afford a new car.Report This
smalltooth84 May 16, 2010 1:24 AM
first of all the leaf is hideous ok and i dont know about anyone else but appearance matters and the volt is the first car to look good when you are in it as well be good for the environment lol and Nissan doesnt have a really good looking line in all except for the 370 i do have to applaud you for that one and i will be picking one of the nismo models up soon but yeah the leaf yeah you can get 100 miles for one charge but is it like a lap top that if you leave it off and out side in the cold all day will the battery die and then what are you supposed to do with the volt at least you have an alternative option and another thing if you are on a road trip where are you supposed to charge it at??? think about it volt is the way to go and also the leaf looks like a car from the Grinch who stole Christmas as well as the cube i mean really are we all turning into the who's down in who ville. no we are notReport This
gocarter3313 May 16, 2010 1:20 AM
Seriously Nissan. What man would want to drive the leaf around without looking like a stromboni???? Maby you little japan fags would like to drive the leaf around........At least the chevy looks good. GM fan here - 87 blazer w/ 200k miles, daily driver, and original engine.Report This
bearsouthard May 16, 2010 1:19 AM
I only have one question, how can an electric car have a Miles-Per-Gallon rating shouldn't it be Miles-Per-Charge?Report This
stripedbass7 May 16, 2010 1:15 AM
CHEVYS TRASH ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT ! IF THE VOLT WAS GIVEN {TO ALL THE 32 MILLION PEOPLE THAT GMC RIPPED OFF, IN THE DEXCOOL CLASSACTION SUIT} THEy WOULD STILL BE DRIVING TRASH. & YES HOWIE, YOUR RIGHT ! THEIR LAWNMOVERS ARE EVEN BETTER !Report This
rayburndt May 16, 2010 1:08 AM
Not much of an article, but it doesn't matter much because the readers based on the postings don't have much information anyway. Just one point to think about. Oil and gas is very heavily subsidized and has been for longer than most of us have been alive. The idea of the govt. giving rebates or whatever is a good one, and actually doesn't cost much, maybe nothing, since that is money that won't be used to supply oil....so it's a wash....well except for the billions that we won't be sending to Iran and other such places.Report This
wagnerfarms May 16, 2010 1:03 AM
the volt is one hell of a great car i cant wait to purchase one i love gm cars gm may have had cdrr61 May 16, 2010 12:59 AM
What effect does heating and airconditioning have on these electric vehicles? It takes ALOT of power to run an A/C compressor. How is the Leaf gonna heat the cabin and defroster in the heart of a New England winter without a gas engine for heat? Thats also gonna take ALOT of energy from the Battery to keep someone warm and the windows clear of frost.Report This
msseca May 16, 2010 12:54 AM
I have yet to find out how much fuel this vehical carries. The Volts first 40 miles are free / electric, given you charged overnight and are starting at zero, after which you can travel the vehical another 190 miles before you...expire...... I don't know, am I now out of gas or completely electrically discharged. GM is not exactly forthcoming with their entire story. Sounds like fuzzy math just like their bailout just like the we repaid the bailout . Why should I buy from someone when they are not forthright. Some think we need to buy from these institutions because they are American. Why? They shipped the jobs overseas. That wasn't very American of them now was it. GM simply stands for "G"reedy "M" otherf*ckers. Does the car come with OnStar? You know - just in case.Report This
a1cohn May 16, 2010 12:49 AM
Very, very litle of A,merica's electric power comes from oil. So charging with electric current does not use oil. We don't have an energy problem crisis. The USA's problem is that most of the countries that export oil either like Iran control terrorists whowant us dead, or like Saudi Arabia fund madrasses that teach their pupils to be terrorists. We have to get the price of oil much lower and greatly lower the money flow to these terrorist suppoting nations.Report This
cmptrgru34 May 16, 2010 12:38 AM
This is in response to reab800. Define American. Just for kicks, I one day went to a Saturn dealership and read the window stickers. Most of them said that the cars were built in European countries. The same is true of some of the models produced by Ford. Case in point, the Ford 500. According to its window sticker, the engine was produced in Germany. This is referred to as outsourcing. It needs to stop. Also, General Motors needs to bring back the Oldsmobile line.Report This
yarchee1 May 16, 2010 12:37 AM
Mr. BlueJeans, When you're out of a job and hungry................Eat Your ToyotaReport This
jantlowe May 16, 2010 12:36 AM
Americans priced their selves out of the vehicle market. Unions demand to much & the workers are paid to much. I don't buy American cars. ( just more money for Obama to destroy the country) If you check you will find alot of American cars are not produced here....they make parts in Mexico, Canada & other countries.Report This
millerice3 May 16, 2010 12:34 AM
I don't see how you can even compare these two cars. One is totally electric and the other a combination electric and gasoline engine. The electric car is fine if you're keeping your mileage down. But the Volt is great with having the gasoline engine coming on to keep the battery charging for longer distances. Also, how can anyone figure out the gas mileage on a car that uses no gas? And if you drive the Volt under it's 40 mile range and keep it charged, then drive for 100 miles the mileage would be way up there.Report This
em1del May 16, 2010 12:31 AM
Just another way to get so many of us to pay for the toys and lifestyles of others that boast their love for the planet but can only afford if thru the tax incentives that the rest of us have to cover. I say let the damn things sit in the showrooms and factory floors till they become affordable without taxing ME for my neighbors ride. I'm already paying for his food, house,healthcare!Report This
bryanmerrittper2 May 16, 2010 12:17 AM
I would never buy a piece of crap like these ugly little cars they are very expensive to maintain and they are just plain ugly. I hate that eastern Earopean look. Give me a full sized American made sedan or pickup truck Gas or Deisel any day over that electric hybread crap. I'de rather ride a frigging bicycle!!!Report This
jcal5150 May 16, 2010 12:15 AM
thers both F-CKING uglyReport This
hondabuck May 16, 2010 12:14 AM
WE GET 70% OF OUR OIL FROM CANADA.Report This
jcal5150 May 16, 2010 12:13 AM
both of them cars are ******* ugly as hellReport This
hondabuck May 16, 2010 12:11 AM
IF THE ELECTRICTY COMES FROM COAL,OR OIL WHAT DOES IT SAVE? WHAT DOES IT COST IN YOUR ELECTRICTY BILL?WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE MORE THAN 40 MILES?Report This
jps96895 May 16, 2010 12:07 AM
I'm not in the market for either, but to me the Leaf looks laughable. And the Volt has a big advantage if an emergency ever arose or someone got lost. The Volt will get you home with it's small gas engine, while the Leaf sits on the side of the road needing an 8 hour charge.Report This
gstat5 May 16, 2010 12:06 AM
that crack about the floormat was a stupid ******** comment doesnt the writer know people DIED because of the floormat of a toyotaReport This
starkunited May 15, 2010 11:53 PM
I have 15 cars ordered that run on Natural gas aprox 70 mpg. See for yourself ! Eco-fueler.net/ls3304/Report This
phoebus61 May 15, 2010 11:51 PM
In my case my round trip dry to and from work is about 25 miles. I would buy the Leaf but keep my Mercedes just in case I need to drive more than 40 miles. My problem with Nissan is DESIGN - they developed this great new technology under the hood and in the car, but what about the body? Can't they make the Leaf more sporty looking? Car appearance matters Nissan. Put a Z body on the Leaf and you would have a winner.Report This
starkunited May 15, 2010 11:48 PM
Wait for FORD, I will bet they will Have a Better Idea, Lester StarkReport This
schmidtdave827 May 15, 2010 11:43 PM
And both cars hurt the environment more than mid sized SUV's. Get the facts straight, these cars essentially run on the coal of the power plants, and the manufacture of their batteries produces about as much pollution as many cars burn in gas over their lifetime.Report This
kurt2088 May 15, 2010 11:43 PM
What will you do for a/c and heat? What will be the life cycle of the batteries and how much will age affect Them? How much will a new battery cost every 2 years or whatever lifespan they will have? Will your speed drop off as they discharge? I have rc airplanes, both gas and electric, and have to say an electric car would be a NIGHTMARE, plain and simple!!! You kool-aid drinkers didn't hear Al Gore confirmed global warming, climate change or whatever you libs call it, is a hoax, he even bought an ocean front property to prove it! LOL!!! Do they have the Goverment motor's volt in FOOL'S GOLD???Report This 21 - 40 of 110 Comments« PrevNext »their poor mgt issues . the general is
bahamaroot1 May 15, 2010 11:41 PM
I could never buy either until I know for sure how long the batteries will last and how much the replacement cost is! The cost of new batteries could really add to the cost of ownership and buy a hell of a lot of gas.Report This
papachuck63 May 15, 2010 11:29 PM
230 mpg, Bull$ht!Report This
fh1939 May 15, 2010 11:29 PM
I love my TDI nothing comes close nothingReport This
fkeller439 May 15, 2010 11:29 PM
When autos are struggling for high milage, why have GM cars adopted a blunt, wind resistent front end resembling a bedspring!!! The Leaf front end may look like a catfish but both need to slip thru water....and air with the least energy!! FloydReport This
ojanniemike May 15, 2010 11:29 PM
When you consider the cost of 2 wars in the middle east, the lives of the soldiers, civilians, diplomacy in the unstable regions, and the economic fallout from financing these wars, the losses in the stock market after 911, the economic cost of the Exxon Veldes in Alaska and now the HUGE oil disaster in the gulf it should be apparent that the real cost of a gallon is NOT 3 bucks. This is not even including the huge amounts of money we subsidize the petro industry as taxpayers or the money they DO NOT PAY in TAXES that is shipped out of the country that hurts our balance of trade. If nothing else start buying electric cars because it is the PATRIOTIC THING TO DO and does not polute if powered by alternative energy like wind and solar.Report This
ssaalwaech May 15, 2010 11:17 PM
I've owned two cars that got 50+MPG. 1 gaseline, 1 diesel (Ford's got 1 that gets 70MPG) sold only in Europe I would be happy if they just focused on good milllage. I don't need electric.Report This
victorbatangan May 15, 2010 11:13 PM
STEVE 1970 have good ideas. Build a solar panel on the roof of the car that can charge the battery while parked at work and on solar roof on your house while you parked in your garage during the day if you work night shift. If money is no problem, I would prefer to buy this electric car that develop jobs, rather than sending your money to OPEC for the gas to power your car.Report This
reab800 May 15, 2010 11:13 PM
Did anyone ever think of BUY AMERICAN? You stupid people who like foreign cars so much, please move to the country you are supporting. I'm an AMERICAN and proud to support one of the industries that is still left in this country.....the AMERICAN AUTO INDUSTRY. You morons know that the foreign countries have NO CONTROLS in their industries, and their wages are a joke. With that truth in mind, we still can beat them because we have the GREATEST WORK FORCE ON THE PLANET. So, you nitwits, along with the writer of the article, BUY AMERICAN, or shut up when you lose you job or one of your kids can't find one.Report This
treedeco May 15, 2010 11:09 PM
I'm no judge of beauty......but I do know ugly.....and the Leaf is knock down, dragged thru the mud UGLY!!! The Volt is much better looking....PERIOD!!Report This
f9rfan May 15, 2010 11:09 PM
What was going through this writers head when he used the analogy of"A leggings clad fat women shopping at wall mart ". I quit reading at that point. personally I did not need that image running through my head.If I was an overweight woman it would of made me feel self conscious.I can't think of one positive element that statement could ever have ! I hardly ever complain about content ,but I wonder how this got pass an editorReport This
raggioazzura May 15, 2010 11:08 PM
Go for the Leaf. Its' powertrain didn't short-circuit on a press drive, unlike a certain Chevrolet... Also, the Leaf is more affordable. However, the design certainly isn't for everyone, ******** more practical and unique than the Chevrolet.Report This
reab800 May 15, 2010 11:05 PM
Did anyone ever think of BUY AMERICANReport This
swoboda May 15, 2010 11:05 PM
I'll wait for a Fisker.Report This
franksfoil May 15, 2010 10:58 PM
"I don�t know precisely what my own source would be (we have both coal-fired and nuclear generating plants here in Mississippi)" You can buy a solar panel system and then you run your car for free! You also get your electric for free! That's not way off in the future. It exists now and even people in the Northern states use them. No more electric bills. No more gas bills. No more carbon emissions, smog, pollution in the gulf, dependence on foreign oil or paying $4/gallon for gas. You can have it now.Report This
womankll7w1blow May 15, 2010 10:58 PM
I think they are both pretty affordable. I prefer the LEAF. I think the lights are neat and I like the wacky look of the LEAF. I don't think it's UGLY. I just think Americans aren't used to that type of design on a car. I prefer the LEAF. I think it's got a fresher look. The VOLT looks like an old person would drive it. I also like the BLUE color and the BLUE headlights.Report This
rslpilot May 15, 2010 10:49 PM
I have no need for a Government Motors vehicle. I'll wait until Ford comes out with something.Report This
tjstieg May 15, 2010 10:42 PM
Why not go back to the horse and buggy? Zero carbon footprint and plenty of organic matter t o feed to your victory garden. By the way--how much is Iceland going to have to pay to the world community for all of those volcanic carbon emissions?Report This
aselton May 15, 2010 10:30 PM
HAVE IT YOUR WAY I MUCH PREFER THE VOLT. GREAT STYLING, BIGGER MORE ROOM AND AMERICAN. I THINK IT SHOULD BE A BIG HIT WITH THE COMING HIGHER TAXES AND GAS TAXES TO COME.Report This
elainecullen May 15, 2010 10:29 PM
I find the author's comments about not believing GM bizarre. Clearly the auto company that shouldn't be believed is Toyota with all the lies they've been telling for years. Both Toyota execs and NHTSA officials who went to work for Toyota immediately after working for NHTSA were engaged in criminal actions that not only perpetrated but continued the lies.Report This
dsvstheworld May 15, 2010 10:28 PM
I AM TOTALLY BUYING A VOLT. I CANNOT WAIT. AND FINALLY AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE WAKING UP AND GETTING IN THE MIX OF ENERGY EFFICIENT VEHICLES. WE CAN DO IT! IMAGINE, NO MORE FOREIGN OIL, NO MORE SENDING TROOPS TO DIE TO STABLIZE UNSTABLE COUNTRIES FOR OIL. NOW WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WINDMILLS, AND SOLAR PANELS EVERYWHERE. WE LIVE IN THE "SAUDI ARABIA" OF WIND AND SUN. THIS IS THE FUTURE.Report This 41 - 60 of 110 Comments« PrevNext »
wolfiechat May 15, 2010 10:27 PM
I have read some of the comments. I really think you folks are out in left field( all by yourself). The jury is still out. But NO! I wouldn't buy either one until they are proven on the road by the discriminating public who buy anything to look green(cool).Report This
danet35 May 15, 2010 10:26 PM
Both cars are TOO expensive for the average car buyer, such as myself. They are both way out of my range for affordability. We need a car that is under twenty grand for the working man.Report This
illusionstool May 15, 2010 10:26 PM
GM like the rest of our US automakers gave up honesty in favor of instant profits made from selling junk took place in the early 1970's and continuned till they went broke. Overall Datsun/Nissian have always made pragmatically better quality cars delivering better mileage, superior longevity and far less maintenance costs and both Datsun and Nissian honored their warranty without excuses and corrected the problems. I worked for Nissian in the mid eighties.Report This
agt4085 May 15, 2010 10:23 PM
If the volt actually works without major repairs. This will be a totally new platform of cars. They will be able to make small trucks. Small jeep looking vehicles. This will be pretty amazing if it works and you can drive a 1000 mile on a tank of gas. Not sure if the people who wrote this article or the not so smart people in this room really understand the implications here. They already have electric motors the can mount to each individual wheel and are rated at 100 hp. They could make 4wheel drive units with 400 hp. And as for electric power. They also have natural gas plants not just coal. If they figure out how to also combine solar then this will change the way we drive period.Report This
steves1709 May 15, 2010 10:20 PM
Ummm.. to the worry-warts about tossing batteries in landfills - currently, lead - acid batteries are recycled. Naturally, batteries of more exotic materials would be recycled too... that's just economics! As far as your car picking up women - that type of thinking deserves the type of women attracted to the car instead of the person. Another thought - REAL men do not need a 4x4 in winter to get around, unless they don't have roads. My FWD Impala hasn't been stopped yet in the last 8 years of Midwestern winters.Report This
oneup87 May 15, 2010 10:14 PM
**Please Note - okay, so you want to hug some trees and be "environmently friendly" by driving an electric and/or hybrid car that gets good gas mileage and everyone else, like me, who drives a full size truck is a jerk for using up so much fuel. Well riddle me this batman, what do you do they do when the batteries are shot? Throw them in the landfill with everything else so my future kids can have it in there water? On another note, you need to plug it in at night, where do you think all that power for your house comes from? On most situations it is coming from a plant that has to use fuel.Report This
jayk4usa May 15, 2010 10:13 PM
I wouldn't be caught dead in that ugly Leaf it could go a million miles and I still would not drive that japanese crap. The Volt looks awesome.Report This
hihoho May 15, 2010 10:11 PM
Just where do people suppose electricity comes from? It comes primarily from coal fired power plants. Coal, despite the industries best propaganda, is not clean. Electricity does not just come out of a plug in the wall the way milk does not just come out of the cooler at the market.Report This
stanswarts3 May 15, 2010 10:11 PM
If the government would stop taxing gas,oil, tires, and my tired old butt. Imight be able to get a new used car, forget about a new high priced electric car.Report This
invadergsx May 15, 2010 10:10 PM
Unless your enviromental freak like most Gore lovers, I am a guy who likes fast cars or in the winter 4 x 4's. Until the cars are faster and have more horsepower I don't care if you are giving them away for free. I'm not rolling around a future ford festiva. For $36K? I'll buy an AWD Lexus is250. Let's see who picks up more girls at the bar.....Report This
cmiller1938 May 15, 2010 10:09 PM
If I was to purchase either, it would have to be the Volt, because 1. it isn't bad looking 2. it can go further 3. IT'S MADE BY AN AMERICAN COMPANY!Report This
stanswarts3 May 15, 2010 10:03 PM
When the government shares car note payments,that when I'll buy a battery operated car. With all of the money we gave the auto industry we should be able to get one for free.Report This
edgarae1 May 15, 2010 10:01 PM
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edgarae1 May 15, 2010 10:01 PM
That was *********, btw.Report This
edgarae1 May 15, 2010 10:00 PM
What a terribly written article, I couldn't even *********. Ugh.Report This
kennyyy9288 May 15, 2010 9:52 PM
Take your head out your asses, Wow you people think backwards, sure the leaf only goes 100 miles ******* just starting production, and they're signing contracts to start building power stations everywhere. They are Taking an Iniciative. Chevy Like all others, look like ****. You wanna complain about the designs of a chevy? Come on, it looks cheap like an other chevy. Nissan is a Premium vehicle, and Nissan Leaf i alot nicer than the chevy. Have you seenthe front, side, sure the angle of the picture doesn't capture the vehicles beauty but all angles of the Volt is UGLY.Report This
hbards7852 May 15, 2010 9:46 PM
Ther author should check his information sources. according to everything I have read about the VOLT says that it does NOT recharge its batteries while driving on engine power. The only way to recharge the batteries is to plug it in.Report This
heroesdesilencio May 15, 2010 9:46 PM
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steves1709 May 15, 2010 9:46 PM
Here's an idea which was not mentioned in the article. Build in a solar panel in the roof of the car so it can do some modest but free charging while driving or parked. If your daily driving is well under 40 miles a day you might go weeks before using gas or plugging in your Volt. A solar panel at home on the house roof could charge the car as well. Problem with the leaf - on a trip of 100+ miles you'd have to stop and park 4-8 hours to recharge the thing. If you can find the infrastructure to charge the silly thing. As far as looks - who cares about appearance when the whole idea is functionality - gimme the best aerodynamics / efficiency whatever it looks like! (Let me pick a wild paint color!!)Report This
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heroesdesilencio May 15, 2010 9:44 PM
I guess you cannot type the work ************* like i tried on my previous post. Talk about limiting works. AOL. YOU S.U.C.K lolReport This
rockola1458 May 15, 2010 9:42 PM
I'll keep my SUV with it's 350 engine.Report This
fastednap May 15, 2010 9:41 PM
The Leaf doesn't seem very practical except for inner-city driving and short commutes. It's a glorified electric golf cart and butt ugly at that but some New Age tree-huggers will prolly buy it. I can easily bag over 100 miles/ day so the practical Volt gets my vote.... plus it looks like a
REAL car.Report This
heroesdesilencio May 15, 2010 9:40 PM
People are not worried about the enviroment yet. Atleast a high percentage of the population. & affordability is key. When it comes to saving money, when the calculations are done and it SHOWS that neither one of these cars can offset the cost of a much cheaper internal combustiion car, people will buy what is cheaper. Now, if they were to be priced the same as a cheaper internal combustion car and get better comparable gas milage, then people will buy. When it comes to saving money these cars do not pay for themselves as these MFGs try to paint that in our heads. This battle of getting off foreign oil addiction is only in the beggining stages. If we were to measure it, in lets say "feet", if we need to go 100 feet we have only moved about 2 feet since the 1970s. MONEY TALKS in this world and until there is a better balance between the money ******* coorporations and the people who do not earn enough we will be sitting on a tippy toe motion moving in inches. SAD REALITYReport This
erae104 May 15, 2010 9:38 PM
In the year 1972-73 in South San Francisco we saw a proyotype car that was electric and had a very small gas turbine engine that ran on kerosene and was used to charge the battery system and had an unbelievably high miles per gallon,It was an all electric drive with a small computer system controlling the independant motors that drove the four wheels. It vanished! I have often wondered who bought and hid it! Now I know!!!!Report This
mspski May 15, 2010 9:35 PM
From the research i have done as well as my own observations and "common sense"...it appears that the "gold standard" for an all electric car is 200 miles on a charge....until this can be done with an "economical battery that will take daily recharges and last at least 20,000 miles..and cost in the high 20,000s as a stripped model.....the electric car has not arrived..Report This
euqinu1 May 15, 2010 9:33 PM
re: romeredjr May 15, 2010 8:57 PM "hopefully we can start seeing some Tesla level cars based on design but with Chevy Volt prices in the near future." There's a new company called Fisker that is starting with a Tesla-level hybrid electric called the Karma, but then is going to make a hybrid electric family sedan for about $45K. The Karma is coming out in a few weeks, and the sedan is due out in a couple of years.Report This
horsedrag May 15, 2010 9:33 PM
Be careful what you wish for. Do we really want to fuel our cars from our mountain tops? 500 mountains already severed. Plus an electric vehicle is in reality about 1/3 as efficient as a "clean diesel" and coal fired power plants are the largest cause of global warming. Besides why would we want to drive golf carts when we can drive regular cars? No there is no future for electric cars, unless we want to replace our mountain tops with mountains of dead batteries.Report This
pelmore835 May 15, 2010 9:24 PM
After being stung by GM's diesel engine in the eighties...I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on a GM product if it was on fireReport This
csatterth May 15, 2010 9:23 PM
I've had many cars. I love my Nissan Quest. I've had it 13 years and it still gets 22+ miles a gallon. So, I 've always said I'd never own anything but a Nissan. That said, I like the looks of the Leaf, I think because it isn't "run of the mill.". I'd love to be able to afford it.....but, I'm still driving the same car for over 13 years....Report This
emercer53 May 15, 2010 9:22 PM
Chevy volt is my next car. Http://www.hybridcarplace.comReport This
pachino929 May 15, 2010 9:21 PM
It's about time an all electric car came out...I'm sure the 100 mile limit will cause some distance anxiety in the begining, but we will all sing a different tune once the infrastructure is deployed throughout the country...I hope down the road they can work out a solar powered recharging station for homes...that would be cool...Bring on the LeafReport This
jimbo1350 May 15, 2010 9:17 PM
Who's going to be the ginea pig and drive either of these two in sub zero weather up and down hills for more than 20 miles? Nice in theory, but I wouldn't want to be the first on the block with one of them. Give it a few years to shake the bugs out, and maybe I'll go that route. I'll drive my
40 MPG Cobalt.Report This
johnieb1 May 15, 2010 9:16 PM
Why doesn't GM bring back the EV (Electric Vehicle)? It was an all electric car leased to a few selected people in California in the early part of this decade. GM would not renew the leases on these cars and confiscated them from their happy drivers and destroyed the cars. Or did GM sell the plans for these wonderful cars to Oil Companies so we would be slaves to the Oil Companies for many years to come?Report This
johndevo7399 May 15, 2010 9:11 PM
very ugly car the leaf wow whom ever draw this car must be a child even a child would draw a better car then the leaf. Look at it giving me a stoke does Nissan need help on creative the answer is YES NOW WE ARE HIRING FOR SOMEONE WHO COULD DRAW A CAR WERE IS BETTY WHITE SHE WOULD LET THEM HAVEIT GET THAT CRAP OFF MY LAWN AND GIVE ME A VOLT OR A BEERReport This
pnut166 May 15, 2010 9:08 PM
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. These cars require fuel - only car enthusiasts seem to grasp this. The general public seems to think that they`ll run on pixie dust. When you compare apples-to-apples (or carbon-to-carbon), these things are NOT that clean when compared to some modern internal combustion vehicles; in fact, some traditional cars out right now are actually greener than these two. No, these cars may not be directly responsible for carbon emissions, but when you factor in what the coal-fired plants put out to charge these things, it gives a whole new perspective on "green". Granted, it IS cheaper to power per mile, but if we convert to an electric-car society, the cost of electricity will only rise in proportion to demand and falloff of oil consumption. In the long run, it will cost MORE to power homes and cars with the same source. Remember the whole Ethanol movement? Sounded great until the specter of losing corn as a food commodity / staple came up. So, any notions that the new electric cars are gonna save the planet or be a free-lunch are mistaken. The only real benefit is severing our dependence on foriegn oil - that alone is reason enough to move in this direction. I don`t need all the other fallacies to sell me on the tech - just be honest, GM.Report This
buscari May 15, 2010 9:06 PM
Give my a hydrogen car...p.l.e.a.s.e.!Report This
falcon38a May 15, 2010 9:06 PM
Can't wait for the Volt to be ready to purchase. It is a good looking car and worth the price to stick it to the oil companies and the evil oil producing countries who have screwed with our economy with the production and the price of oil.Report This
budgetcopy May 15, 2010 9:05 PM
Electirc cars simply push the pollution issue out of sight, making naive, stupid americans very happy. No one has yet calculated the pollution cost of making those batteries and then trying to rid of them once they are no longer useful. Out of sight, out of mind.Report This
srvblackdog May 15, 2010 9:00 PM
I think my 92 Roadmaster well do just fine, gets over 25 mpg on highway and well still be running when those two are new cars from China. On top of that who pays for the new battery packs? And how much do they cost.Report This 81 - 100 of 110 Comments« PrevNext »
gbaker4012 May 15, 2010 9:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chevrolet-Volt-DC.jpg This is the Volt I wanted to buy before they changed it. The production model looks like every other ordinary looking car riding around.Report This
romeredjr May 15, 2010 8:57 PM
If I HAD... and I mean gun pointed at me with a madman at the trigger screaming pick one, HAD to choose one... It would be a no brainer... The Leaf is by far one of the most repulsive looking vehicles I have seen since those smart cars... The volt seems promising, and hopefully we can start seeing some Tesla level cars based on design but with Chevy Volt prices in the near future. It's like, these car companies are making these awful looking cars, so when nobody buys them they get to sit back and say how they offered green cars and no one bought. I have a bad feeling this is where we are headingReport This
harlyinnc May 15, 2010 8:56 PM
The Leaf is butt ugly. It looks like a toad. Give me the VoltReport This
b8minor May 15, 2010 8:50 PM
I'll take a GM every and any day !!! Just think of how quite a Chevrolet Volt must be ! I can not wait to own one , or two . Having a wife , and us being a true WE , of coarse us two , being a true WE , shall need two GM Volt's ! One for she , and one for Me , for then us two , shall be a true WE . I ponder as to how soon a GM Volt Truck , maybe a coming Reality ? And even Volt Semi's , Volt Ambulances , Volt Police Cars , Volt Fire Trucks ? For seriously What Oil we have in this US of A , is all we need for security ! Have Ocean Oil Tankers being used for forien country's oil needs ! Have those Iranians and Saudi's worry ! Then watch Oil prices drop BIG time and soon the world not need one drop of Middle East Oil , let THEM , then WISH they had not been so greed-ie ! As they sit on sand dunes holding out coffee cups for change , begging we but a pint of their oil a day , so they can feed there Camels ! lolReport This
alfredschrader May 15, 2010 8:45 PM
Did the math & leaf uses $200.00 worth of electric power a month verses $60.00 worth of gas. I'm working on superconductivity which would improve the figures, but my research takes money which no one seems to have...Alfred-Report This
onex3dgxeno May 15, 2010 8:43 PM
That is one UGLY catfish. I'd be ashamed to drive that (Even more ashamed then driving a Prius.) It has got to be the ugliest car i have ever seen. Way to go Nissan, way to go.Report This
DevAutos May 15, 2010 8:41 PM
The Leaf looks awful. I wouldn't want to ride in one, let alone own one. The Volt is pleasing to look at and I've heard great things about it. The author complained about the price difference. I'd expect to pay more for a much better car, and the Volt definitely seems like a much better vehicle..Report This
jrmet1999 May 15, 2010 8:35 PM
screw nissan i don't want to go 100 miles and be stuckReport This
chvy70camaro May 15, 2010 8:23 PM
the volt looks like a real car, the leaf looks like a little go-cart!!Report This
jamesbrown395 May 15, 2010 8:21 PM
i take neither oneReport This
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